Surveillance Societies
"Are we there yet? The present and future of surveillance societies." -- Watch the live stream here: https://live.matomocamp.org/WGWW8R

    Surveillance Societies

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    Topic: "Are we there yet? The present and future of surveillance societies." -- Watch the live stream here: https://live.matomocamp.org/WGWW8R

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    Really interesting hack for the webcam !
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  40. silva.arapi
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    yes, now looks great
  41. ronanchardonneau
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    Life(like in health) and money are often the two big factors which are making people move. According to you how could it be possible for citizens to feel more concerned about privacy?
  42. ronanchardonneau
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    Do you have any proof/leak or any other source of information showing that a GAFAM can track an individual along all the websites/apps he is visiting? For example being logged to a Google account, then being able to know that this user is visiting a given website thanks to tracker within GG fonts, adsense or others?
  43. ronanchardonneau
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    any websites of sources of information of reference that we can refer to in order to find back the technologies you mentioned about surveillance?
  44. ronanchardonneau
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    Any ideas of how Pegasus got into the smartphones? was it like installing a special Android app?
  45. alfonso.aponte
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    How to fight crime, while protecting the integrity of people?
  46. because we are offering a space to be used by those who want to remain anonymous
  47. ronanchardonneau
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    Thank you Viktor
  48. Peter Boehlke
    Thank you!
  49. Mikael Jonsson (datamicke)
    Thank you for a really interesting presentation.
  50. alfonso.aponte
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    Thank you awesome presentation !!
  51. Stefan Koning
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    ronanchardonneau: Google uses their GAIA ID which is the unique ID Google uses between their services.
  52. Thank you!
  53. ronanchardonneau
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    but do we have any leaks from GG employees showing a print screen of it?
  54. like a super surveillance GA version
  55. Viktor
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    thanks :) this is a tool by a Hungarian startup - Prezi Video
  56. ronanchardonneau
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    my point is that we are saying that it is possible to make it... but we don't have a proof, except a Snowden slides showing the logo of some gafam
  57. Viktor
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    Thanks for the kind words everyone! You can find me on Matrix as well I'm hanging out in different rooms.
  58. ronanchardonneau
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    but this is not a topic that I know much so that's why I am looking for some links
  59. ronanchardonneau
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    great thanks Stefan Koning
  60. Viktor
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    we might need to clarify what you mean Ronan as there are many different interpretation.

    1. Google tracking you across sites they partner with to use it for their own systems
    2. Google and others working together on a "supersystem" where data is shared across them
    3. Google IDs used by law enforcement universally without limits
  61. ronanchardonneau
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    all the 3 points
  62. sorry guys I have to go for lunch break, I will answer just after, sorry for that, great conference Viktor
  63. Viktor
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    I think 1. is given and well documented and can be easily verified. I can find sources is you want later. 2. i don't think there is any proof of this, but it's possible. on the other hand there is a cost benefit analysis you have to consider: sharing data means you lose some value and it creates risks. perhaps more than benefit it creates (keeping it secret, keeping it safe etc). 3. same as #2 , as you pointed out except Snowden. we can assume the big budget players (NSA etc) find ways to tap into it. BUT if there is a backdoor that is approved/built by Google I really want a whistleblower

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    enjoy!
  65. Viktor
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    https://privacyinternational.org (down right now, but they have really good summary sections on all this)
    https://edri.org
    https://www.eff.org
    this is a good paper that gives an overview, I hope there will be updates: https://carnegieendowment.org/2019/09/17/global-expansion-of-ai-surveillance-pub-79847